I am in full final mode now. That means I am going to waste a lot of time reading news. As I am reading news, I cannot turn a blind eye to this Iranian hostage situation. It is as if we are reviewing 1979 again. Back then, the diplomats were spies, and now they are aggressor to Iranian integrity. YEAH RIGHT!! DOES ANYBODY SERIOUSLY BUY THAT CRAP?!!
British Armed Forces and their generals are showing hard and crucial evidence indicating that their boys (and girl) did not enter Iranian waters. They used these GPS satellite imaging showing the last communication and all the technology that indicated their locations to prove their point. They had this very well organized conference and they presented their case. The funny part is Iran tried to copy that. They brought this moron General with a paper map trying to prove the case. They have this paper map with drawing on them claiming that the soldiers were arrested there. Compare the two for a second: GPS satellite and last communication spot located on the map, or a paper drawing from this fool claiming they have hard evidence and yet they fail to show single evidence. On the other hand, this dumb shit Ahmadinejad gave a speech today regarding a war with Iran. He says Iran is a nation Martyrdom and Emam Mahdi (the 12th Emam that I talked about on my previous post) will protect Iran. You dumb fuck, where the fuck is this stupid Emam when Iranian daughters and virgins are being sold off overseas to Arab Sheikhs? Where the fuck is this Emam when Iranians are now starving due to high inflation rate in Iran in the past few weeks? What the fuck or why the fuck does this Emam need Nuclear Bomb or as you are claiming Nuclear Energy for? Can't this Emam who supposedly is going to shoot down B-52s, bring free energy so we really don’t have to deal with the great Satan?
IS IT ME OR IRAN HAS COMPLETELY LOST IT? SERIOUSLY? What happened to sanity? What is this government doing?
Another claim that an Iranian General made: the Zionists occupiers are planning a suicide attacks in all Arab nations trying to destroy these countries and take over them. And then he says, "it is my advice to you my Arab brothers!" First of all: Israel does not believe in suicide missions you dumb shit! It was your country who actually accepted it as a military tactic which never works. Plus you moron, when was the last time Arabs considered Persians their brothers?! When was the last time you guys were brothers?
Another funny issue is that all the Political blogs that are leftist and very pro-Palestinians and are persians have shut the fuck up on these issues. Not a word is coming out of them. I wonder why!! I thought they were the seekers of the truth and I thought the "left" had their support in seeking that truth, come on guys, I am waiting for an article from you guys trying to glorify Iran again?
On the last note: Iranian government is different than Iranian people. Unfortunately this government is destroying Iranian image around the world. Iranian populations within Iran are tired of this government and their tactics. Every voice that is coming out that country is screaming and tired of this government. It is very crucial to differentiate between the two. The picture on the right is the best example of what a true Iranian is all about. This is a student holding up a t-shirt of his friend who is a student activist for democracy in Iran and he was beaten very badly by the revolutionairy guards (Pasdarana) and para-military terrorist group of Basij. This guy was jailed for this picture. However, there are some of these morons who live in the U.S who only go to Iran on vacation and eat Kabob while they are there and claim to be the true Iranians, and they should be ignored. If they are Iranian enough as they claim to be and they love this government so much, go back to Iran and live under that rule and then claim this government is justified in their acts. BITCH!
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Iranians are Aryans (that's what the country means.) Yet why a Zionist nation would become a fanatic Israel-hating country is beyond me.
There is not a single Iranian in guantanamo bay. At the same time, British has never participated in any activity in Gutan. Another issue is, these sailors were not conspironing, neither planning, to kill civilians for a certain religion. Therefore, your argument in ever aspect is wrong!
where are the 5 iranians the US caught? they didn't even have a trial. they have secret prisons in Europe too if u didn't know. they're all in on it and co-operating. nobody even bothered showing "concern" about that issue.
Dude, Iran has been mingling with Iraq's business for a long time. They were caught INSIDE Iraq. They were caught with evidence of their support for the terrorist activity in the region. That is an irrelevant subject at this point. Why can't Iran just mind its own business?!! Why would it be so hard for them not to cause trouble in the Region?
why are you so gullible? they were caught with evidence that they were terrorists?!?! they were in a building that was in the process of being registered as an iranian consulate. if they were "terrorists," why don't they put them on trial for the world to see? seriously, i'm surprised how easily you buy "evidence" that they provide. "terrorists" are people too, they deserve a trial.
and seriously, have you gone through the names of everyone at guantanamo or all the prisoners they hold? this whole thing about the brit sailors is blown out of proportion. whatever, i'm glad iran's making money off of it as gas prices go up :)
no, i'm trying to say that those 5 people arrested had nothing to do with the shit in iraq. thanks for trying to twist my words.
this is a nice site you set up to provoke people. picture of palestinian kid with bombs around him, and hitler on top. very nice
Look, these pictures are the reality of the Middle East. Look at Iran: look how it has gone down within 2 years, look how low it has gone down. Look at the inflation rate close to New Year and after it.
The guy who goes and gives a speech of Iranians are not afraid of dying and they are the nation of martydom, and Emam Mahdi will protect us, HE IS THE PRESIDENT OF THIS COUNTRY, what do you expect?
Those five people and a lot more Iranians in Iraq are the reason for violence simply because Iran does not want a stable democracy in its borders
I am sure you could, and make it, but at the end of the day, when I show you the whole picture such as when the Tank is parked, people will see the truth at the end of it.
Iran is very much ready for Democracy. Look at their student movements, look at their women movement. Iran is not just any Arab country in the region.
The point is,
no matter how much people say, "if someone try to come to Iran, Iran will unite and fuck them up," you don't think Iraqis felt that way before U.S hits it up?
Plus, what kind of mentality is that? Why do you have worry about the worst case when you can avoid the worst case by just working hard a little bit? Violence and death is not the answer! Iran needs a civil regime change, like the modernists coming back to the game and stop its nuclear ambitious.
Mr. Annonymous:
Iran got NOTHING in terms of military!!!! I mean nothing, in their latest military show, they claimed they have a new missle that they have build, it usually turns out that they got the missles from some other countries with 70 or 60s technology. However, in the last military exercise, they didn't even bother making thier or own movie or clip, they just jacked it from some other chinese footage and funny part was that they got cought for it. Iran is blofing and if you are simple minded enough to fall for it and then it is your problem.
On the other hand, no body wants to make Iran "fall," they are trying to change Iran's tactic regarding its nuclear ambitions and they will do it one way or another. There is no "but", "ifs", or "and" involved here.
yeah ok, keep telling yourself that. iran got "NOTHING." i think we both know what type of governments US and israel have. if iran had "NOTHING" they would have bombed it already. even if they only have military technology from 60's or 70's, that isn't "NOTHING." maybe you should learn how to think so you don't contradict yourself. we know nuclear weapons were around in 60's. so if a country has a military based on even purely 60's technology (which isn't even the case for iran), that's far more than enough. i don't think you realize that a lot of things in science don't change much over the years and much of what they did in 60's or 70's is still being done today. that stuff u hear on the news is bs. 60's and 70's tech is plenty and i couldn't care less if they make it or some other country makes it as long as iran has it. israel's US made airplanes are gonna have a hell of a time trying to bomb iran's facilities with the russian air defense systems. no "but", "ifs", or "ands" involved huh? so if its gonna be brute force let it be. like that other guy said, iranians will fuck whoever invades iran.
well,
Iranian weaponry is a joke, and you know, otherwise why did they have to resort to fake footage!
On the other hand, no matter how much people like try to keep telling themselves that, Iran will not be able to defend itself from an air strike. I don't know how much you know about defense system, Iran got Sam batties right next nuclear sites, and these SAMS could be taken out w/ laser guided missles! After they are, that's when the bombers come in!
I dont' understand, is a nuclear bomb really worthed to destroy Iran for?
"Iranian populations within Iran are tired of this government and their tactics. Every voice that is coming out that country is screaming and tired of this government."
Yes, yes, every voice? Arash the Occupation Soldier is the self-designated speaker of 70 million people.
Arash who joined the Israeli occupation forces and served the occupation, please, do not talk about Iran as if you care. You have joined the Israeli army, thus, you have showed where your priority and allegiance lay. Meaning, when you view Iran, you do so with Israel in mind. So when you pretend like you are advocating for freedom in Iran, you are only doing so bc opposing this gov't is good for Israel.
IF YOU WERE REALLY ABOUT FREEDOM, YOUD BE PRO-PALESTINIAN. In other words, to serve the occupation gives you negative credibility to speak about freedom in Iran.
Leave Iran to Iranians honey, we don't need any Israeli Occupation sympathy.
As for Iran's kabab, I had the best and worst kabag in Iran. The worst was when I visited Dr. Mossadegh's tomb. On our long drive home, we got hungry and pulled over to eat and the kabab was full of rocks or bone bits or something but it was not edible. The best kabab, however, was at my mom's friend's house. It was homemade and finger licking good.
hahaha.
Do you still have 10 Israeli flags, the poster of Israeli generals at the wall after the 67 occupation, Israeli bullets lined up on shelves, and the like all over your room? Arash, you are an extremist and a one dimensional figure. Stop surrounding yourself with the same theme, it's reinforcing your one track mind. Relax, and go do something else. You're so militaristic/fascist and blindly supportive of Israeli policy, whether in regards to the occupation of Palestine, or opposition to Iran, that you don't see anything else.
Is this where your side kick Siamak jumps in and talks about the Mufti of Jerusalem 70 years ago and tries to tell me how a dictator racist Arab is representative of all Palestinians?
Do I really have to post the Ben-Gurion quote? Really? OK.
Here it is:
"We must do everything to ensure they [the Palestinian refugees] never do return" David Ben-Gurion, in his diary, 18 July 1948, quoted in Michael Bar Zohar's Ben-Gurion: the Armed Prophet, Prentice-Hall, 1967
This is the founding policy of Israel proclaimed by its founding leader/racist.
Enjoy cuties.
It's nice to come here every so often to whip a little ass.
Ill come here again when I feel like it to kick a little more.
Until then, talk amongst yourselves and go to some IAC meetings for reinforcement. Or just keep telling yourself that we humanists oppose Israel "bc we are jealous of Jewish independence." hahahahahahaha.
YOU KNOW WHO THIS IS, BIATCH!!!
p.s. I love your new blog design, and the map? Do you find inspiration in my blog? It seems like you're modeling your blog after mine. Im flattered. The funny thing is, the map cluster you posted is actually very embarrassing to you. If you click on it, it tells you the # of visitors you had the previous day, which is usually around 10-15. hahaha. Now go run and tell your friends to come on your blog to read the latest from the mind of a fascist Israeli occupation soldier.
UH!
General, soldiers, potato, potaato. Did you get my point about how I think it's best if you stop setting up an environment that reinforces your one track mind or did you just stick to the soldiers/generals bit?
Coward? A coward would stay silent to your hate and racist ways. A coward would let you spit your lies uninhibited. A coward would support the occupation of a poor people. A coward would blame the poor people who are victims of that occupation. A coward would serve in the IDF, and support the occupation, and then blame the people for fighting back. Indeed, YOU ARE THE COWARD.
Anyway, here's the fundamental difference between you and Ahmadinejad. He denies the Holocaust, or holds forums that question the Holocaust, and talks about wiping Israel off of the map.
You served in an army that doesn't talk about wiping Palestinains off of the map, but actually does it. You serve in an army that denies the legimate aspirations of the Palestinian people to statehood.
Now bitch and whine about what Jim or Joe has said, but we will call you out for what you have done. Your fellow fascists will call you a true patriot, but I will call you a blind sheep that was active in a killing machine.
You call me a terrorist sympathizer? Well, you served in an army that employs terrorist methods.
You have called me a Marxist and an Islamist on your blog. I do not blindly support any one ideology. I see the holes in every one of them, but you the other hand, not only endorse the ideology w the most holes, Zionism, but you have militarily served it.
I don't use "occupation" and "fascist" to hide anything. I call it like I see it. The occupation is illegal, not bc I say so, but bc international law says so.
You are a fascist not only bc you served in a fascist army, but bc you label people who peacefully oppose your racist doctrine as people of hate. This is nothing short of intolerance of varying political ideas, which is, of course, another attribute of fascism.
You are along the same line of thinkers that tell regular Americans to leave this country for being critical of its foreign policy. Indeed, yours and their intolerance for political ideas is just another telling example of your fascist ways.
Now, please, tell me more about how you think Iran should be free, all the while knowing that you actively worked to continue the ILLEGAL occupation of Palestine.
Yes, you are a true freedom fighter.
I am inspired.
YOU KNOW WHO THIS IS.
Look:
If Israel would have wanted to wipe Palestinian off the map in Israel, trust me, they had the fire power to do it. Ahmadinejad did not open a forum to discuss Holocaust, he has openly called it a myth. Even though he keeps changing his story, anti-semites like you loves to point out to the ones that he says "i simply just asked a question."
You keep calling it as it is: hahahahahaha bulshit!!
Look Pouya: You have lost a lot credibility in every aspect of opinion. I really don't feel like going through everyone of them.
Israel is here to exist, Palestinian deserve to have their own country and sovereing rule, it is not just me, but Majority of Israelis and Zionist with exception of settlers (but we do controle our extremists as oppose to people like you who call Hamas killers and killing of inocent jews you true hero.)
Don't me start lecturing you on fascism because apparently you don't a single thing about Fascism. And about occupation, it is another broad question that like I said I don't feel like lecturing you on.
The issue in this subject ON MY BLOG is Iran and Ahmadinejad, why do you try to justify your position by arguing against my history in IDF (WHICH I AM DAMN PROUD OF AND I'LL DO IT AGAIN AND AGAIN)
And let me tell you something, I probably have more sympathy for what happens ot Iran than you do, because if you did, you realize what this government is doing to Iran and how it is delivering to an absolute destruction, but again, you are an anti-semite who are willing to sacrifice Iran's well-being for Arabs (the people who by the way hate your balls and call you fire-worshipers)
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
You are SO cute. Awwwwww.
I don't care if they are Arabs or Ethiopians, I sympathize w the Palestinians bc they are human and are being terrorized by the likes of you.
And I don't care if Israelis are doing it or Iranians, it is wrong no matter the religion of the oppressor and I would oppose them all the same.
Opposing Israel's warmongering and it's continued ethnic cleansing is not anti-Semitism, but nice try.
You can try to discredit me as a person so as to avoid my words, but it doesn't change what's being said.
And yes, Israel has the fire power to wipe out the Palestinians, but why do it in such an drastic way which can earn you international condemnation, when you can do it gradually and discreetly, which is what Israel has been doing.
"And let me tell you something, I probably have more sympathy for what happens ot Iran than you do..."
Bitch please, if the gov't in Iran was doing exactly what it is now but was aligned w Israeli policy (like the Shah) you'd would, without a doubt, be praising the gov't in Iran left and right.
I posted a cartoon on my blog. I didn't say so, but it's dedicated to you honey. Enjoy. And remember Israeli Occupation Soldier, if you get upset reading these posts, you can take one of those Israeli bullets you have in your Israeli Military Shrine of a room, and you can kiss and caress it to make yourself feel better.
YOU KNOW WHO THIS IS OH COWARD WHO FIGHTS FOR AN OCCUPATION OF A POOR PEOPLE.
p.s. you said: "Palestinian deserve to have their own country and sovereing rule..."
Actions speak louder than words, you say this to come across as political correct on your blog, but Id like to remind all 2 of your viewers that you served the occupation, which systematically denies a Palestinian state.
In any case, EVEN IF a majority of Israelis support a Palestinian state, it changes nothing. Settlements are continuously being expanded, the wall is built, and the military checkpoint continues.
Pouya:
There is no ethnic cleansing going on in Palestinian areas, howcome I don't see you saying the same thing about Darfur and what;s going on there since you really odn't care about ethnicity? Howcome you are not this passionate about what's going on there?
Your only problem is it's a Jewish government in that land and you know better than anybody else there is no ethnic cleansing going on??? Come on, who started the intifada? Who is the one who always talk about armed struggle???
Come on dude, you try to hide your anti-semitism through words such as "i'm standing up to ethnic cleansing" just like your beloved president always talk about "I just raised the question"
Howcome I don't see you putting a page on site about "Darfur" or even write about it?? but again, it's the muslims who are committing the actual atrocities and they are not Jews and you cannot accept it.
That's outrageous. The truth is, I just don't know much about Darfur. I've seen ads on TV, and I know there's something going on, but I don't know much about it, just like I don't know that much about the civil war in Colombia.
So what, in order to talk about Israel's ethnic cleansing, I have to talk about all world issues at the same time, otherwise I can't talk? No one is held to such a standard, if so, there would be no political discouse in this country.
Please.
And I think it's very telling of your own racism to accuse others of racism for opposing ethnic cleansing. You talk as if it's hatred to oppose Israel's murder of a poor people. Wow. I think it's all very telling of you and your character.
And lets be clear, IT IS ETHNIC CLEANSING AND IT IS APARTHEID. South African officials, who know apartheid better than most, have called Israel an apartheid state. As for ethnic cleansing, occupying Palestinian land, installing Jewish-only colonies (settlements), killing those who resist, implementing collective punishment of the non-Jews, making life so hard that it causes an exodus of the non-Jews, tells all of ethnic cleansing.
And it's a common Zionist tactic to try to silent criticism of Israel's murder w accusations of anti-Semitism but it will not silence me nor will it discredit my words. It's not anti-Semitism just likes it's not Islamophobia to criticize the Islamic regime in Iran and its treatment of Bahais, women, political dissidents, etc.
YOU KNOW WHO THIS IS!
Arash, really though, I promise not to embarrass you on your blog if you just give your "writings" a little more thought.
If you continue to write without thinking, Im afraid Ill be compelled to continue to call you out and embarrass you.
"so next time u wana call me stupid, make sure you get ur facts straight!"
Honey, you have said nothing to dispute any facts. You just spoke generally and said no to this and no to that.
You put down no facts or history, what facts should I make sure they are "straight"?
And no, dumbass, most of the people of Darfur ARE MUSLIM.
As for Palestine, it is arguably the most important conflict of our time. Not bc I think so but bc what's happening in Palestine has global repercussions. It has radicalized extremists to exact revenge onto America for its support of Israel, it has sparked several wars, one of which happened this summer, and it is possible that a potential strike on Iran's nuclear facilities by Israel could spark another.
Don't tell me to prioritize anything simply bc you don't want people discussing Israel's atrocities.
The Arab-Israeli conflict involves the entire world.
Anyway, as to me having my mind made up, you're right, I side w the oppressed and oppose the oppressor. And yes, you have been to Israel, thus, you are a bit more emotional and little less rational when you discuss it.
You are the one that has your mind made up and excuses every murder Israel commits as a defensive attack. The entire occupation, all the settlements, the wall, all are a continuous OFFENSIVE posture.
Now go kiss your Israeli bullets lined up on the shelves you murderer.
YOU KNOW WHO THIS IS.
Dude..the war of thissummer did not happen for Palestinian, it happened because of Iran and its search to set this regionon fire. I dont' want to discuss this summer's war but it was not because of Palestinians. Radicalization of the muslim has happened regardless of Israeli/Palestinian issue and you know very well. It is just an excuse and yet no one has true roleld up their sleeves to actually try to solve it. That is the reason we have palestinians in such a horrible situation. Every leader came along and declared that they would be the hero of the Palestinians. From Nasser, to Saddam, to Khomeini, to Nasrallah, to this midget lice Goosfandinejad, they all USED palestinians. Who paid the price, Israel paid the price. Of course Palestinians did too, but only Israelis died w/ Palestinians. Now days, we have some sort of awakening, now there is a movement in the region to truely solve this problem because of Iran. Iran is trying worsen the situation, Saudi Arabia is trying solve it (again, for their own self-benefit)
Until the day we have morons like you who keep making up defitions such as mass murdering, ethnic cleansing, and all that crap, there won't be mutual respect, w/out mutual respect, there wont be peace.
People like you have brain washed Palestinian kids, and I have seen Arabs in Israel and in the territories, none of them think like you, except the ones who are militans. Your militans ideologies does not have a single factual basis but rather a mythical standing.
"We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population."
David Ben Gurion, Founder of Israel
"We must do everything to ensure they [the Palestinian refugees] never do return" David Ben-Gurion, in his diary, 18 July 1948, quoted in Michael Bar Zohar's Ben-Gurion: the Armed Prophet, Prentice-Hall, 1967
"If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?"
David Ben Gurion, Founder of Israel
"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population." Moshe Dayan, address to the Technion, Haifa, reported in Haaretz, 1969
I swear you are lucky I am in the middle of finals and I really don't have that much time to discuss everything.
But at the end of the day:
More Palestinians are gona end up dying, Iran will be bombed, and more people on the other side are going to end up dying if there no solution and peace is not signed. Israel is not going anywhere an it is here to stay. You could grab a gun and try to fight it, and get tready for your country to be destroyed and have more people dead, or you could simply learn to live side by side w/ it. I am an IDF puppy, I am talking about peace, morons like you are the one who are talking bout destroying Israel (which in your dreams will ever happen)
Sooner or later, not this generation, maybe next generation people will see through this sort of argument which does nothing to divide up people and create more wars. Yes, and everyone of those wars, you guys will cry that we're being murdered and killed, if you can't handle a war, don't start it!
Now keep trying post quotes that your leftist wackos have put 2gether to try to formulate your argument. If I go through all the anti-semitic quotes of your beloved leaders about killing jews wherever or whenever, you and your buddies will be very embarrassed. Hell it's not even a quote but rather there are 21st century movie clips of it availabe.
yes pouya, you are still an anti-semite!
About that comprehensive peace agreement, it's a joke, they have not done anything, peace agreement is giving up something, they just repeated what they wanted and that is it.
Israel should not give back any part of Jerusalem except of the mosque.
Israel should not allow a single refuge to return!
Golan heights is negotiable, but don't retrun everything, because Syria should pay price for its aggression in 1967.
Comprehensive: my ass!
peace agreement is you never get 100% of what you want. These arabs country simply saying we we want 100% back so we could recognize you guys as human...why don't you guys shove it up there as much we are concerned. We're the powerfull ones and after the wall goes up, we'll pull right behind that wall. As simply as that, let the Palestinians take care of their own fate. If they try to do anything to harm israel, IDF will go back there and once in a while show them who them the reality of war.
comprehesive my ass!!
Saudi Arabia is trying to suck up to Israel because of Iran, as much as I am concerned, let saudis lose all their power in the region. For Syria, they got nothing to lose, no wonder they want this to work out!
Typical Shi'ite propanda.
My good friend, you just have to realize that your crazy, radical interpretation of Islam is invalid and irrational. Iran represents all Shiites about as much you represent all persians. i think its clear to both of us that you're just a persian immigrant to the United States who feels nostalgic and sentimental towards Iran, and even guilty for having to live here in the country of Great Satan.
This clouds your judgement.
For I think its clear to both you, me, and the whole international community that Iran is openly supporting terrorist activity in Iraq, Lebanon, and Israel. Iran is also developing nuclear weapons, while calling for the destruction of another UN state. As a matter of fact it is Iran's actions that have forced the moderates of the abovementioned three countries to unite to fight Iran's influence.
And yet you still blame all others. Israel's 11,000 incursions? What hezbollah site did you get that number from...
The recent israeli bombing of shiite strongholds in Lebanon happened because Hezbollah kidnapped the soldiers.
Of course now you will claim that you won. Now that you have gotten over your joyful jumping up and down, go to the shiite neighborhoods in Beirut and see whats left of them. As one general once said, "with more victories like this, we'll quickly lose the war."
Hezbollah was successful, but not in what you think. it was successful in uniting the Druze, the Christians, the Sunnis, and the Israelis across the border with one goal - the future complete elimination of Hezbollah.
Let's drink to that! oh wait i forgot you dont drink, well then.. to you covering your women with bed sheets! hooray!
Siamak-the-side-kick-who-got- brainwashed-by-his-peers and Arash the occupation soldier, you guys keep talking about how Israel is here to stay as if that was the issue. The issue is not whether Israel's existence is at stake, but the ethnic cleansing and Israel's military denial of the Palestinians right to exist.
Arash talks of peace? Really? Look at your original post, there's no peace theme, just one of confrontation.
As to the comprehensive peace, the Arab League offered the deal, in it there is a compromise by saying fine, we concede that Israel gets 78% of Palestine, now either allow the refugees to return to Israel proper OR COMPENSATE THEM (the way the Germans compensated the Jews), and let there be a Palestinian state in the remaining 22% (the West Bank and the Gaza). Return the Golan. Of course by your standards, that's not a compromise. The settlements are there for a reason and no compensation can be made to the refugess bc that admits guilt, and only Germans are allowed to admit guilt and pay compensations.
You pay lip service to peace, but your original post is one of confrontation and your service in the Israeli OCCUPATION forces is an act of war.
And what's the moron saying above my post, Im not religious AT ALL!!!
YOU KNOW WHO THIS IS!!!
Funny how you completely ignore the hundreds of thousands of Jews that were kicked out of Arab countries following the establishment of Israel.
How about this for a deal - when Arab countries, who have hundreds of billions of dollars from oil receipts, admit guilt and compensate Jewish refugees, then Israel will compensate Arab refugees. By the way, Libya has already taken a step in that direction by offering the Jews of Libya to come back to the country after kicking them out.
As for the Palestinian Arabs.. In order to claim the 22% of the West Bank and Gaza, one has to first establish a claim to the land.
1. let's open the history books, have you ever heard of a palestinian state? now, look up the jewish state. the Jews have had a state in the land of Israel more than once.
Palestinians never had their own state, while the Jews had and specifically in this land.
Round goes to the Jews
2. National Identity - did palestinians ever think of themselves as a whole people independent of all other arab peoples around them before the establishment of Israel? No. Before and during Israel's War of Indpendence, all Palestinian leaders called for a merging into Syria, and considered themselves Syrian. Palestinian nationalism was a movement created to acquire international support for the Palestinians' war against Israel. Nothing more. -- A movement based on nothing.
Did Jews always have a national identity? clearly yes.
So now, should the Arabs get any part of the West Bank? The answer is pretty clear, they no links to the land and have a supeficially created identity.
By the way, if anyone does deserve their own state, its the Kurds of Iraq, Iran, Syria, and Turkey.
Although Kurds never had their own state, they certainly have had a separate national identity, with its own language and culture for more than 1,500 years.
So let's drink to Kurdish independence, and maybe some day to that of the Azeris?
People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones
Libya's offer is clearly a public relations stunt(i mean who's going to move to Libya and live in poverty?), but it does show that the Arab countries do remember kicking out the Jews and taking their property.
The nation-state is a modern concept. Iraq, Syria, and Kurdish aspirations for nationhood are new concepts. But, Kurds have existed, and so have the Arabs in that land, and that's all that really matters.
I just read this news brief and I wanted to bring it to the attention of the Zionist-Terror Apologists on this blog.
Siamak and Arash have in the past stated the Arab civilians die bc that's war, and bc militants hide in front of them. I see this as nothing more than blaming the victims.
In actuality, the opposite is true:
Israel 'human shield' suspension
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6554487.stm
"The Israeli army says it has suspended a commander after the unit he led was accused of using Palestinians as human shields in a West Bank raid.
Amateur video footage shot earlier this week showed Israeli soldiers apparently forcing Palestinians to stand in front of their armoured jeep."
Im sorry to say that this sort of thing happens often, but it was just caught on tape once.
Everyone, watch and see how Arash and Siamak turn this around and try to blame the victims.... again.
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Pouya: What the hell does that have to do with anything?! It is one commander making a mistake and he is being punished for it. My argument is that terrorist do hide behind civlians and that is why a lot of collateral casualties as a result of each confrontation.
Plus, Pouya don't for a second try to deny the fact the Jews existed in Israel and they actually built cities such as Jerusalem historically. Don't try to deny our historical claim to the land. But again, you are an anti-semite, you know how to ignore fact or delete stuff!
ok, you who everyone is suppose to know, point is you dont disagree that palestinians dont deserve a state. good for you.
the next question is can they live in the land even without a state? Yes. just like the israeli arabs, palestinians have the same right. the difference in their conditions is due to the fact that palestinians are descendants of people who fought the jews and who left, while the israeli arabs are the descendants of the people who stayed and supported the jews.
Hence, its not surprising that they would not be loved by these very same jews they fought so many wars against. at the same time, their right to live in the state of Israel(including the West Bank or Gaza) is to be respected if they equally respect the character of Israel as a jewish state.
In a similar sense, can iraqis that have moved to Sweden live in Sweden? yes, however they have to respect that it is a Swedish country of the Swedes, meaning the culture and the language is to be adopted and not to be fought.
as for the Jews, history does not lie, Israel and Judea were there way before any arab invasion of the land thousands of years later.
in law, property is apportioned based on the rule of first possession. Since the Jews are the most ancient people who were in first possession of the land, it is theirs.
any claim about a right to an arab state would be as strong as one for a christian state in the area, since both peoples came to the land through the use of force. as you can probably guess such means are illegal and invalid and do not confer any such right upon on you.
Such activity says: "We have the means to expel you, and we have done so and will continue to do so bc you are not Jewish."
Pouya, the David Duke fan, I think I know where you have been getting all your ideas...
http://www.amazon.com/Jewish-Supremacism-My-Awakening-Question/dp/1892796058
You have no basis to think I am a David Duke fan. Please refer to my one and only post on him, which said nothing of the like.
As for the quote: ""e have the means to expel you, and we have done so and will continue to do so bc you are not Jewish."
I stands and you said nothing to object.
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